Unmute Yourself
This podcast is about lifting the curtain on leadership, purpose, and the real stories behind people who dared to do things differently. We’ll talk about how they found their path, the struggles they faced, and how they built something that truly matters. These are everyday people doing extraordinary things, and I want you to know, you are capable of that too.
Unmute Yourself
Season 3 Ep 16: Stop Abandoning Yourself With Wendy Vigdor-Hess
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You’re Not Broken — You’re Disconnected
She said, “Love yourself. You’re enough.”
And I felt that one land in my body before my brain could even catch up.
This conversation surprised me—in the best way.
I sat down with Wendy Vigdor-Hess expecting to talk about health. Nutrition. Maybe a few mindset shifts.
What we actually talked about was what it costs to abandon yourself… and what it looks like to come back.
Wendy’s work blends holistic health, embodiment, and shamanic practices—but what struck me most is how simple and human her message is:
You’re not broken.
You’re just disconnected from yourself.
We talk about:
- Why so many women feel like they don’t belong
- The quiet ways we betray ourselves to be liked
- Generational patterns we’re still carrying
- And what it really means to feel at home in your own body again
This one felt grounding. Honest. A little emotional, if I’m being real.
And if you’ve been circling something—
a decision, a boundary, a version of yourself you’re scared to fully step into—
This conversation might be the nudge you needed.
00:15 – What this podcast is really about
01:27 – Wendy’s unexpected path into holistic healing
04:30 – What her work actually looks like in practice
06:33 – Why people feel stuck (even when they’re “doing everything right”)
09:42 – Shamanic practices… explained simply
14:25 – Confidence, self-doubt, and becoming
19:13 – Generational patterns & inherited beliefs
23:22 – What Wendy is no longer hiding
25:04 – “I’m not good enough” — and unlearning it
27:04 – The truths we don’t talk about (but should)
28:09 – Grounding, presence, and coming back to yourself
32:09 – The one thing she wants you to remember
If you’re ready to stop circling the decision you already know you need to make—
let’s talk.
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She’s hosting a class on April 27 focused on working with the mother and the lineage—your connection to Earth Mother, your ancestral lineage, and your birth mother.
And what I love about how Wendy approaches this is…
you don’t need a perfect relationship with your mother.
She even says, it can be any kind of relationship, and your mother doesn’t even need to be alive.
This work is about awareness, clearing, and coming back into alignment with yourself.
If you’re feeling called to go deeper, you can learn more or sign up here:
https://www.thesanctuarycentres.com/
She also shares meditations on Insight Timer if you want a really accessible place to start.
Connect with our guest: Wendy Vigdor-Hess
Website: https://www.thesanctuarycentres.com/
Email: wendy@vigdorhess.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendy-vigdor-hess/
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Website: https://flashlightthinking.com
Where in your life are you abandoning yourself… and calling it “being nice”?
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Welcome back to Unmute Yourself. I'm your host, Jennifer Carter, and this podcast is about lifting the curtain on leadership, purpose, and the real stories behind women who dared to do things differently. We'll talk about how they found their path, the struggles along the way, and how they built something that truly matters. Now, these are normal people doing extraordinary things because I want you to know you are extraordinary too. And today's guest is Wendy Vigdor Hess, a holistic health practitioner and coach whose work blends nutrition, embodiment practices, coaching, and shamanic traditions, which I'm so excited to hear about, by the way, to help people reconnect with their bodies and their energy. And her approach is rooted in the belief that healing and transformation don't just happen in one dimension. They happen physically, emotionally, mentally, and energetically. So Wendy helps people step back into alignment with themselves, their health, and their purpose in a deeper way. Wendy, I am so excited to have you here today.
SPEAKER_01I'm excited to be here. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Yes, it's been a long time coming. I think we've met each other, I don't know, four or five months ago, maybe? Yeah, it feels like a while ago. Yeah. Well, y'all, I'm so glad to have this convo. So let's just start at the beginning. So your work blends a lot of different disciplines, right? Nutrition and coaching, even shamanic practices. So, how how did this path even start for you?
SPEAKER_01Good question. Yeah, it really has started and it it's been evolving the whole time through my own journey, honestly. It's really like years ago, I was interested in working with my own health and became interested in more holistic practices and kind of dabbled in it and started to just explore. And one thing kind of led to another. And so it's sort of it's sort of blurry how it even started in terms of initially it started with training. I was stressed out, I was living in New York City, I was working in a completely different field, started working out and met when I I worked a night shift and met people through that because I became a personal trainer and met people, and there were people on the path who were super interesting to me. And it got me interested. There was a woman who used to come in with MS and she used to come in with her nurse, and it got me interested in kind of exploring deeper with other things with the body. And just so then I continued with personal training, but continued and then got interested in nutrition and went, decided to go to school for more schooling for that as well. And then I knew always when I was in school, I went to Best Year, which is a naturopathic school. So even though I was doing for nutrition, I always knew that I was interested in a more holistic approach. So I learned other, I started adding other modalities and I added Reiki as energy, and then I added other energetic understanding. And I was always intuitive from a very young age, but all of this was sort of happening at the same time that I hadn't necessarily realized that other people didn't necessarily see things the same way or recognize them in the in the same way. And so it just became more of a of a learning as I was developing myself and becoming more of who I was and who I am. And that's always evolving. I mean, we're never, we're always wherever we are and we're always continuing to grow and evolve. But that's how that's how it happened. And it also led into more of the shamanic practices and then nature-based healing and just connecting with people and energies and nature in different ways. So that's sort of, yeah, sort of a broad yet specifics.
SPEAKER_00So it sounds like you just followed your passions and what you were completely interested in, and it led you to continuous learning. And now you've rolled all of that into practice. So what does that look like?
SPEAKER_01Well, it it can look different for each person, which is why one of the reasons why I love it because I feel like, you know, just like you said in the intro, we're all we're all made up of so many different facets within our own self. Like we are, we are so much. And yet we sometimes see ourselves in certain ways. And what I love about how I've put things together is that it can offer so many different things to different people. So some people still find me and they they just want nutrition or they just want, you know, but then once we meet and they're starting to recognize the different ways in which they walk through the world, they can see how all the different pieces work within their own quote puzzle within themselves. So it's very organic and how it all comes together because each person is individual. And so when I'm working with someone, it's very, there's not necessarily, well, we always do this or this is how a session always goes, which for some people can be off-putting initially because they want to know. We, you know, our brains want to know. We want, well, what is this? But what is consistent is what people get in terms of or receive is more and more of themselves and more joy, more happiness, more contentment, more peace, more of a way of walking through the world with themselves intact, loving themselves more, loving all parts of themselves more, and really embodying all of those what seem like separate pieces, but are all part of what makes up each person. And that looks different for everybody. So feel free to ask more questions because it's a little bit Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah. Well, like what kind of challenges do people usually come to you with? Like if somebody's listening and they're like, What does she do? How can she help me? So what are some of the common things that you see?
SPEAKER_01Well, I see a lot of people who are working on they're on a holistic or a spiritual path. Most people that they they sort of understand different pieces of it or they've been trying to eat better, they've been trying to eat um healthier foods, you know, less chemicals, less more close to the earth, what whether they're meat eaters or plant eaters or however they choose to eat, but they're more with less kind of extraneous things. So they might, but they might still be having digestive issues, they may still be uh in a time of great transition within their life. So things are changing. What used to work may not be working anymore for whatever those goals may be for a person. Um, it could be losing weight, it could be digestively. I used to, you know, I never used to have a problem with my digestion, now I do. It could be um more with um patterns and things that they recognize within themselves. They may become more pronounced with their relationships in how they interact with people, friends coming and going, um, you know, and things that seem kind of shore footed maybe shifting a little bit or a lot. Things with their family also may be happening. So I see many people who have, they just feel like they don't fit in, they feel like they're not enough, they feel like their family dynamic was they were sort of the quote black sheep, or they they also just in their circles, may not necessarily feel like they think the same way or or do things the same way as others. Like they're they have some quirky, which I feel like we all have quirky, but but they may experience themselves differently with the quirky. Um, so they may be kind of in a comparing and they feel like everyone's better than them, or they're not liked, or again, they're not good enough, or they also may have issues. They want to take better care of themselves and they've tried, but they feel like they just they're always taking care of other people. They may have a lot of people in their life that they are taking care of, whether it's caregivers to parents, or within their family dynamic, or in their relationships with friends or partners or spouses or even just pets, even if they, you know. Um, so they yeah, and they may feel really stressed and anxious about all of that, but they're not necessarily sure how to they've they may have done a lot of different things, you know, that they so so sometimes people are newer and they they're like, I'm at a lot, I don't know what's going on. Sometimes people have tried a lot of different things, like eating different, like meditating, like walking, like exercising, like all these different things, but it's quote not working. So there might be blocks there and they can't necessarily see them or they don't know what they're doing wrong.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So a lot of, you know, it can be a lot of criticism, self-criticism as well.
SPEAKER_00It sounds like you really look at the whole person. Yeah. Physical health, spiritual health, mental, emotional. And there's something that I don't know that I have a really strong understanding about, and that's you talked about shamanic traditions. Yeah. So how would you describe that work in a practical way? Question.
SPEAKER_01So I've I've done a lot of different ways of working with it, but the easiest way that I think it's like a map. So when we're going somewhere, um, and we travel, and I mean, now we have our GPS or we have our, you know, what's on the phone, but you still you still see the pathway of getting from point A to point B. And what what the shamanic traditions, it's it's a it's like an overlay. It's a way of recognizing ourselves through nature and through natural ways that we walk through the world. So whether you live in a climate that has seasons or you don't, you're still aware of seasons. So our bodies work within seasons. So if you are in a climate that changes, you might like warm foods when it's cold out, you might like cool foods when it's hot out. Our bodies are constantly changing. And so when we're looking at the shamanic traditions, it sort of guides us in a way that we can work within those realms, we can work within those directions, if you will, to help to focus our attention at a particular time. So even though we are living within all of it at the same time, so when you're driving somewhere, just because you're going from point A to point B doesn't mean there's all these states and countries and places all around you all the time. You're just not focused on those places. And so when we're looking at a at a map and using the shamanic traditions, when we talk about directions, for instance, there are animals or there are placeholders, if you will, that fall within each of those areas that represent and help to represent what may be shifting in a particular area of your life in that time. So I'm gonna pause there and just see if anything else, like if that, if you have uh any other questions related to that or if that makes sense, or if that simplifies it a bit, or it's so interesting to me.
SPEAKER_00I don't know, can I just I don't know what I thought shamanic work was, but it wasn't that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it's yeah, it's so, but it's so interesting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's really interesting. And there are a lot of, I mean, I'm giving you abroad, there are a lot of other specifics too, but the way I work with it is very much, it's it's very much in our daily lives. So there, you know, it's not that I don't tune in in different ways or connect with it, but I I feel like bringing it back to what we are living in a daily way is I feel the most, it's just the easier, easiest way to work with it because but helps us to stay with ourselves. And we're taught so much in our culture to look outside of ourselves. And so we can look to, you know, this kind of thing to fix this problem or that kind of thing, or we're we're wanting to, you know, if you will, take a pill or do this to, you know, then come back whole. And the way I'm the way I work with the shamanic systems is really that we already are whole. We already have everything that we need. It's just a way that we can kind of help focus or bring it in, but also to bring it more internally within ourselves because nature is something that we're surrounded with all the time. Even if we are not nature-loving people and we're we live in a city and we don't go, you still are surrounded by things in nature and the natural world. We eat from nature. And again, whether plants, meat, whatever, like everything. And so it's a way to connect us that we are always connected. And it reminds us, and it's like a reflection in a mirror, that we're always connected with ourselves when we choose to be. You know, when we don't abandon ourselves, when we stay with what our process is. And it's a way to help us do that in a very loving and intentional way, where we can see ourselves through a different lens that can sometimes help to temper the way we may be seeing ourselves without having that.
SPEAKER_00That makes sense. Yeah. And how were you always this confident going down this path? I know you said you started with like physical training and then nutrition, and now here you are. Like, did you know this is what you were gonna end up doing in some way, shape, or form?
SPEAKER_01No, no. I mean, I so I always knew that I wanted to help people. But when I first started, like when I went to school and college, I was business and then marketing, and I was, I went through Macy's training program. I was like in retail and then went into the wholesale world. Like I was doing completely different work. I always was sort of a natural, like people had an easy time talking with me. Like I always loved connecting with people, like just natural. Like I like doing that. I love learning about people. I love hearing their stories. I love, but I had no idea. Um, has it been easy? No, it has not been easy. And I feel like that that has fueled my passion to help others because I want to help make it easier for others through the lessons I've learned and through, you know, ways that that it can kind of curtail the process a little bit. Because sometimes when we, you know, talk a lot or we're, you know, we feel like we're making progress because we're, you know, talking about our issues or we're work, you know, we're working through it or whatever. And that is true. And there's also a way that sometimes more can happen in these kind of liminal spaces or in the the quieter spaces. So like for people who may be listening who meditate, it's like when you're getting to that point and you have a mind racing, which we all do, and now more than ever. But when you get to that point, like when you're before sleep or when you first wake up and you're sort of in that like lower pace, or maybe it you maybe you don't not you, but maybe someone feels that more when they're just on vacation, or when you're riding a bike, or when you're exercising, like those are when it's like things can short circuit in a good way, you know, like when you're in the shower and you think of the ideas, or when you those are like ways that we can tap in and more can kind of be happening behind the scenes that make it easier. And so when we get out of the way, and so part of the reason why, I mean, I think everyone comes in with, you know, do you have an easy path, hard path? But as human beings, none of us have it easy. Like we're here to learn, we're here to grow, we're here to become our best selves and rid ourselves of things that no longer work. So, and that our soul is not speaking. And so the easier hard, it can be easeful going through the harder chapters of our lives. And that is what I, you know, with my journey, I would love, you know, I love to share more of that so that it can be more joyful to go through the crappy stuff we sometimes have to go through with things. So yeah, but it's uh yeah, it's super important. Like I, you know, I and confidence, you going just going back to your question too. I mean, confidence was always something that I have struggled with because I always felt like I was not good enough or I was weird or I wasn't doing it like other people, you know. So like the stuff that, you know, what I speak about and the compare, all those things, it's like I've I've lived those things. So it's it's not, you know, I feel like the confidence comes through the moving through it and through the through the actual actions of the recognition, you know, you recognize, but then taking different actions. You know, we become more, we become more resilient and stronger. And just like lifting a weight, you know, you're not gonna lift 20 pounds initially. You're gonna start small and you're gonna stay consistent and you're gonna build up to that. So in all different ways that we make changes in our life, you know, we can start small, but then it's like a, you know, it it keeps making it bigger that we all of a sudden certain changes don't seem as as hard anymore.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's built, it's absolutely building that muscle because once you've taken that first small step, this seems so completely scary. The next step is a little bit easier. And I I love to listen to you because I think people they want to control an outcome. And then, you know, I talk a lot about with my clients white knuckling it, and I have to do more, and I have to do more, and there's zero time for quiet or reflection, and it's just so highly productive. And that little programming, even I see a lot of intergenerational programming, like what my mother told me, and then her mother, and this is what we do, and this is how I show up. I just I think you and I come at it. We work with people on the same issue in different ways, so it's so fun to hear it. So, what do you see? I'm curious from an intergenerational perspective, if anything.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, no, there's a lot. And actually, I've started teaching some little classes monthly. I have one coming up um just because it's pertinent, but it's working with the mother because we're getting in between the mother, like Mother Earth and Earth Day, which I personally think is like everyday Earth Day, but and then Mother's Day. And so, and then, yeah, so I I feel though that it's very pertinent. Um, and it's also very pertinent for I, you know, I tend to see a lot of sensitive or empathic um people as well. And so it is taken on generationally of, and you know, we have our ancestors, we have the lineage to thank because they actually what they with their imperfections and the way they were going through what they were going through, it may not have met some of our needs, but they actually helped pave the way for what the work that we're doing and will pave the way for the generations to come. So it's it's it's a beautiful process, even if you come through it in a way that like your needs weren't met and it wasn't so pretty, or it wasn't like, yay, you know. So I feel though that those patterns, so even, and we can go on a tandem, but even like at genetics and things too, I feel like a lot relates to the the patterning. So it's not so much that, you know, it's like someone can touch a door handle and get a cold from the person before them who had a cold, and other people can touch the same door handle and not get the cold. So it's I know that's completely unrelated, but in my mind, it's related in that you can have siblings, you can have, and they've done studies with twins too, who grew up to, you know, grew up differently or grew up even in the same house, have completely different ways of walking through the world. And so it it's very much about who the patterns that we're taking on and the ways of thinking and how we think that we need to be in order to go again the map, going from point A to point B. What I what I believe is that we're here to actually find our own point A to point B. And how do we do that in the way that is going to bring us the most joy and ease and to become more of who we're meant to be? And it's not a bashing of our lineage. It's not like, oh, well, I did it wrong and I don't want to. And usually it's kind of like grief where we do go through the different stages of why weren't they? And our anger and our frustration and our we needed something different. And then it's the sadness, it's the, you know, and it's it's really a process of coming to the recognition that it's laid out as a gift for us to learn what we need to learn. So Our needs in an essence are not met so that we become more of who we are and who we're meant to be in this life. And so the generational patterns go very deep for that reason so that we can uh also, I feel, clear them not just for us, but for who's to come after us. So I do, you were saying, people I work, I do tend to work with people who are here to actually heal the lineage, free the lineage, and then they, you know, not only are they feeling more free, but it actually helps to change it for if they have children for their children, or if, you know, just in general, even if they don't have children, just to to free that because it's a huge, it's a huge gift um to be able to do that. And it's also it can be very challenging.
SPEAKER_00So I could talk to you all sinking day. I know. I know. I'm just like, I have so many questions, and I can't believe we're about out almost out of time, Wendy.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, it's going so nice!
SPEAKER_00No I know. Oh my gosh. Okay, so how okay, let's do this. Let's do a quick lightning round. Okay. And let's see. Okay, so are you ready? I'm ready. First answer that comes to your mind. Okay. Okay, so what part of yourself are you finally letting the world see? Not hiding as much. I love it. What are you not hiding?
SPEAKER_01Uh, well, I think your questions were really pertinent. You know, the pain and the struggle of becoming. You know, it's like a chrysalis, it's like a butterfly of, you know, and and I think in our culture we see so much of the shiny object of these people who have, you know, a million followers or these things or that. And we think that it somehow magically happens. And I feel like the, you know, the hiding is, well, I'm not there yet, or I'm not, you know, I haven't achieved this, or I haven't gotten there, or I'm not doing it, you know, like the generations or the way you do, or whatever language we each have. And so it's very easy um sometimes to just uh be in the shadows or hide in the background, or you know, not actually have the courage to just be the weird self that you are, you know, it's just like crazy.
SPEAKER_00It's so much fun being weird, isn't it? I know.
SPEAKER_01I know it's much more fun. It is, you know, that too is the process because it is really like there is gonna be criticism, there's gonna be judgment of like, what does she say? You know, what is uh so it is, you know, but I think it is much more freeing to be able to just like, okay, this is who I am, and you may I may not be your cup of tea, and that's okay. That's okay.
SPEAKER_00I think there's a a friend of mine that I tell her, your coffee. Not every not everybody's gonna like coffee. I don't like coffee. Yeah. She likes tea. That's okay. Who cares? Let's keep moving. Okay. Okay. What story or belief about yourself did you have to unlearn to fully become who you are right now? That I'm not good enough. Unlearned. You did it. Yeah, this is so funny. Okay. Oh, I think we covered this, but let's say it anyway. What does it cost you, if anything, to be authentic and why is it worth it?
SPEAKER_01Well, I think it costs the the process of reminding yourself that you can't do it or you should hide, or you're not there yet, or you're not ready yet, or blah, blah, blah. So the cost is the is sort of that it's going on behind the scenes, but it costs like a lot of draining and energy and feeling trapped and feeling like you're in your own prison. So the cost is quite large. Yeah. But what do you gain is the freedom. I mean, freedom, authentic freedom. Yeah. I mean, just being you, you know, and like celebrating that. It's like I just see it as like dancing, you know, but I like to dance. But, you know, it's like when you when you see something maybe in a movie or you see it somewhere, and hopefully in our own lives too. But I mean, you you can see it and you feel that when you're watching a movie, or you can feel someone with that unbridled joy, you know, or on just on a like they don't care.
SPEAKER_00It's so fun. It's so fun. Our little stone-cold group of weirdos. Here we are. Okay. Okay. What what boundary have you set that protects your sense of self?
SPEAKER_01Oh, what a good question. Well, I feel like this is a work in progress, still of not abandoning myself in anything. You know, whether it's when somebody asks me a question and I want to be nice, but I don't really, you know, like it could be like really say, how does this outfit look? Or how does it, you know, and it's like like to not abandon my own feelings, my own way of being to please another or to, you know, fit in or to not, you know, to not be like criticized or uh the same sort of theme that we're talking about. Yeah. Got it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, perfect. Okay, if you could unmute one truth people are too afraid to say, what would it be?
SPEAKER_01If you could, I don't I don't know if I understand the question.
SPEAKER_00If you can un what's one truth that people don't talk enough about, or one thing that people are like too scared.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, um, sex, money. Yeah, sex, money, the truth of menopause, or the truth of like being a woman. And I I feel like the divine feminine and the divine masculine versus like when you're talking about, you know, the white knuckling, and it's like that's the that's what we're brought up with of like the the earthly feminine, the earthly masculine, you know, just do do it. And nothing against Nike. I actually like the expression, just do it, you know. Yeah, yeah. But it's it's you know, we're again, we're we learn to go against who we are. So, in that, you know, self-expression and pleasure, unmute about pleasure. Um, yeah, unmute that unmute about pleasure, yeah. I mean, just and living from that place, you know, of living okay. Last fast question, allegedly.
SPEAKER_00Okay. What keeps you grounded when you feel pressure to perform or fit in? Nature mostly. Yeah. Do you spend a lot of time outside? What do you do? I do. I walk barefoot.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Yes. I and I live in the country, you know, I live more in the country. So I do where are you? I'm in Virginia. Um beautiful, yes. And so it's yeah, I live with a lot of greenery. So yeah, nature for sure. I mean, I do meditate too, or breathing and really just the things that can be, and I feel like these are the things like I was talking about in the day-to-day life, like breathing, just pausing, taking a pause, you know, having a sip of water, but but reminding myself to be present with those things instead of just like, oh, I gotta get water before I have my next call, or oh, I gotta get, you know, oh, I gotta there's a difference in the way that we're doing it. Um, you know, we can go for a walk and our mind, I've done this many times. I don't even realize what I walked because I was, you know, ruminating about something or I was trying to figure something out, or I was talking to myself, or, you know, so the way we bring our presence to what we're doing, not that there's anything wrong with that I had that kind of a walk. I did, I needed it at the moment. And I feel like to get grounded, it helps me to also just kind of remind myself to be in the moment. Yeah. I also like rebounding. I like jumping on a tramp like a mini champ. I never thought about that. What does that do for you? Oh, I love it. Uh so I have a mini one. We have a big one, actually, because my kids used to jump out, but it that felt too um as a recovering control freak. Fly off. Like, come on. You're gonna fly off. It's time to do sleep. But anyway, I have a mini, a little small or small trampoline. And I love getting on that when my head feels like fuzzy or I'm stressed, or I feel like just full. Like, you know, it's kind of a day that, you know, all my tabs were open and I had like, which is common. So common. I'm looking at mine right now. I'm like learning to like actually, again, with being present, you know, having not keeping them all up because my mind and my energy is going out to all of that. So it just helps me to bounce. And I and it's it just is very um, it's like relaxing. It's like a rocking chair or something, which I love, you know, sitting and rocking would be, you know, awesome too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I I had a little trampoline for my daughter and I'm gonna dig it back out. I was just yeah. Before we got on today, I was like, I feel like I need to do jumping jacks or run around the house, but it's missing out. Right. It's great.
SPEAKER_01I mean, even like five minutes and just you don't even have to like, you can do you'll, I mean, one, you'll see. We just bounce around. But the little health bounce where you don't even have to lift your feet like that much off the rebounder. You just kind of bounce. It's just I find it very relaxing and it just gets me back in like for five minutes. And the other thing is is the um I've started to get up every hour and move. So that also helps me ground and it could be, you know, I could stretch or I could dance or I could rebound or I could walk outside or I could like I don't have a I don't have a system of what, oh, I have to do this. It's just whatever I feel like doing, but to make myself get up and and do something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, I could sit in front of the screen all day and just so zoned in.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly. And love talking and connecting. It's I could do this all day.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I love I guess that's why we do this all day.
SPEAKER_01I love it, I love it. And and I have to remind myself, but that also is part of being, you know, bringing coming back to the body because the mind is so engaged and the curiosity and the connection, and and so it's it's a different way of connecting and it's connecting within my body or within myself. And yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so if listeners walk away remembering just one thing from our conversation, what do you hope it is?
SPEAKER_01Love yourself. You're enough, like just be you. I feel like tearing up a little bit one day. Yeah, I love it.
SPEAKER_00Okay, and on a more personal note, what has it meant for you to share your story here on Unmute Yourself today?
SPEAKER_01Well, I have chills just when you said that, you know, that you she like to me, I feel like that's the greatest gift. So it's like, and that's what I feel like when we are doing this, when you're having your show, when you're interviewing people, when you're doing what you love, it helps spread it for others. And it's the same, you know, it's like when we when we are just sharing authentically and being who we are, weird, what wacky, whatever. It doesn't even be fun, it doesn't even need that label. Like, who cares? You know, and there's so many labels in our world now. Like, and it's not to minimize, because I know in some ways they can help in certain regards for people, but like if we're just human and we're just being human and being who we are, it frees not just us, it frees other people. And so it means so much to me. If anything like hits for anyone or is meaningful for anyone, it just it brightens my world because you know it celebrates what my journey has been. Well, the dog is is exclaiming that truth of that.
SPEAKER_00He believes that he knows the truth, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Because and that's and that's the because the hiding and the thing that we say that we need to do because we're not ready or whatever, we don't we don't in our minds understand that when we're when we're doing just what we're doing here, that that is actually that's the medicine. That's the that's it. There's nothing, there's no like magic. There is magic. There's magic everywhere, but there is no like you have to do it a certain way or you have to be a certain way. It's about just being you and then you're not everyone's cup of tea, but whoever is gonna drink with you and and clink with you, and it's like that's that's great because when each person does their form of waking or wowing or or getting chills or tearing up, it's like that's that's it. That's it.
SPEAKER_00That's it. We may tend to make it more uh complicated than what it is, don't we?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we do.
SPEAKER_00Wendy, how can people connect with you? How can they find you?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they can find me at the sanctuarycenters.com and it's centers on C-E-N-T-R-E-S dot com. The sanctuary.
SPEAKER_00The fancy spelling.
SPEAKER_01Yes, it's a fancy. And they can text, call, and at the website they have my phone number. Um, they can email me, and those are the best ways. Um, but if they want to reach me faster, honestly, calling and texting is the is faster. Um, I'm also on uh Instagram, I'm on LinkedIn, I'm on uh Facebook. So Facebook is uh Wendy Vigdor has L C is is um, but it's actually the Sanctuary Centers also. So they can just find me with my name or the Sanctuary Centers. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00All right, Wendy, is there any anything coming up that you have or a way that you want people to connect with you?
SPEAKER_01Well, they can find me on social media at Instagram and LinkedIn and Facebook. And also if you want to be on my email list, you can sign up through the sanctuarycenters.com and it's center-c-e-n-t-r-e-s.com is the end part of that. And also, I'm also on Insight Timer. So if people do like to meditate and they want different things, I have started recording some things on Insight Timer. It's an app it's an app. Yeah, it's a wonderful app, actually. They have lots of free meditations of all different sorts. They have classes, they have so many different things. It's a wonderful, wonderful app. I've been a uh you a user of it for many, many years. And people have said, you have such a pretty voice, you have such a relaxing, calm voice when I do my classes or healings, that I decided to finally start offering some of my healing and meditation there. So it's yeah, you can sign up for free. You can also get a paid membership, uh which allows you to get some of the plus information there too. Um and it's actually very reasonably priced for a year. But even if you don't want to subscribe to anything else, you can get a ton for free on there. So that's also a great way. Yeah, so and the the newsletter, I send a newsletter, but I don't bombard people's emails in this day and age. So but I do share my writing and and classes and things like that. And you have do you have any classes coming up? I do. I have the one coming up for this month. It's on the 27th. Oh, it's a Monday, the 27th of April, and it's working with the mother and the the lineage. So it's working with our connection to Earth Mother, to our lineage and the ancestral lineage, and to birth mother. And your mother, you know, you don't have to have a good relationship with your mother. Your mother doesn't need to be alive still. Your mother, you know, like it it can be any kind of thing on it. So but yeah, so yeah, and the classes are are energetic in nature. So we we work with with clearing and people can, if they can't come live, they can get the recording, and they're usually about half hour or so, so it's very painful. Yeah. Great.
SPEAKER_00That's awesome. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciated this conversation. This is a great way to start the day. I was feeling a little like focus, Jennifer, focus. You can do this today. And then I'm like, oh, but I get to talk to Wendy. So thank you so much. And um, y'all, if this episode resonated, share, subscribe, and stay with us as we explore what it really means to live and lead without muting who you are. That's right. That's right. Coffee. And until next time, unmute yourself and be who you already are.
SPEAKER_01Love it. Thank you. Bye.